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The following was posted at Ramsey@Home: -

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It's a very sad day for the BOINC community. On the one hand we have projects like Ramsey@home, Einstein@home and ABC@home that are developed and run by skilled, community minded people who have a conscience. They make the effort to keep their science app, work units and policies efficient, thereby reducing wasted effort.

On the other hand we have bad apples like LHC@home that make the whole barrel stink and rot. The LHC@home project knowingly and purposefully tosses 25% of everyone's contribution of CPU time, hardware and electricity into the waste basket. They don't receive any benefit from that 25% waste that they cannot get from a 0 waste policy and practice. The 25% would be acceptable if it could not be avoided but it can be avoided. All the tools and technology exist to eliminate the waste but the project admins refuse to even admit the problem exists. What's even sadder is that they now censor posts in the LHC@home forums that even mention the issue and they promote lies that cover up the waste.

The 25% waste is a direct result of LHC@home's policy of issuing 5 initial replications for a quorum of 3, the 5/3 policy for short. The 5/3 policy was needed and justifiable years ago when BOINC server and client were both rather primitive. Today, however, new features and functionality in BOINC client and server allow a 3/3 policy (initial replication of 3 for a quorum of 3) that would give LHC@home everything they have now plus other benefits they don't have but need.

If you have computers attached to LHC@home, detach them and donate your precious CPU time, hardware and electricity instead to a project run by competent people who need your donation and do what they can to conserve the resources that ALL the BOINC projects need.


I'm going to look into this & if true, will no longer crunch this project as in the current economic climate, I find it insulting.

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I hate when Project boycotts get issued. Anyone remember " The Great Predictor Evacuation"? lol

In the end, the projects have every right to collect and process data in any manner they see fit. That said, we as crunchers, have the right to crunch data as fast, as often and for what ever project we choose.

All I'm saying is that if you choose to boycott a project, make sure you know the facts and act appropriately.

Keep on Crunchin'!

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Agreed. However in the current worldwide economic climate with many cutting back due to fuel costs, a quorum of 5/3 is a total waste of resources. We should all be helping one another, but instead we have indiviual & collective greed where an often quoted naval expression comes to mind - "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead". Also it makes a mockery of other events like "Earth Hour 2009".

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