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To make sure that there is no problem on the Kingston, I've used it on the other X2 & a single core. Both rigs booted into Puppy. no problems.


YOU SAID YOU TRIED IT ON A x2 AND A SINGLE CORE
BUT DID THE X2 RUN ON BOTH CYLINDERS ???
DID YOU TRY BOINC ON IT ??

A HINT, DO YOU HAVE BOINC INSTALLED ON THE FLASH ??
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO INSTALL BOINC ONTO THE FLASH ITSELF WHILE RUNNING PUPPY OFF IT.
IF NOT INSTALL BOINC IN PUPPY ONTO SOMETHING LIKE THE SINGLE CORE AND THEN REMASTER A NEW CD FROM WHICH YOU CAN RELOAD YOUR FLASH.
THIS WOULD ENABLE BOINC TO START UP ON WHATEVER BOX YOU PLUG THE FLASH INTO. THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR EASY MULTI CORE TESTING. TO REMASTER THE LIVE CD GO "MENU / SYSTEM / REMASTER PUPPY LIVE CD. THIS ALSO WORKS FOR MOST OTHER PROGRAMS, SETTINGS AND PREFERENCES.
IN PUPPY LAND THAT WOULD BE CALLED A NEW VERSION. I HAVEN'T TRIED IT QUITE THAT WAY YET, BUT WHEN I DO, MY NEW VERSION WILL BE BOINC HEAVY. ABOUT THE ONLY THING HOLDING ME BACK, IS I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THE MENU SYSTEM YET. I WANT TO REMOVE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS I WOULD NEVER USE BUT THEN THE MENU STILL DISPLAYS THEM. I'LL FIGURE IT OUT EVENTUALLY. I JUST HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT THINGS TO EDIT AFTER. THERE IS A BAREBONES PUPPY THAT HAS NOTHING AND YOU ADD WHAT YOU WANT BUT I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED INTO THAT METHOD YET.

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To make sure that there is no problem on the Kingston, I've used it on the other X2 & a single core. Both rigs booted into Puppy. no problems.


YOU SAID YOU TRIED IT ON A x2 AND A SINGLE CORE
BUT DID THE X2 RUN ON BOTH CYLINDERS ???
DID YOU TRY BOINC ON IT ??

A HINT, DO YOU HAVE BOINC INSTALLED ON THE FLASH ??
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO INSTALL BOINC ONTO THE FLASH ITSELF WHILE RUNNING PUPPY OFF IT.
IF NOT INSTALL BOINC IN PUPPY ONTO SOMETHING LIKE THE SINGLE CORE AND THEN REMASTER A NEW CD FROM WHICH YOU CAN RELOAD YOUR FLASH.
THIS WOULD ENABLE BOINC TO START UP ON WHATEVER BOX YOU PLUG THE FLASH INTO. THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR EASY MULTI CORE TESTING. TO REMASTER THE LIVE CD GO "MENU / SYSTEM / REMASTER PUPPY LIVE CD. THIS ALSO WORKS FOR MOST OTHER PROGRAMS, SETTINGS AND PREFERENCES.

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TO ADD A BIT MORE ON THAT.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR HOME COMPUTER SETUP WITH ALL YOUR PROGRAMS, DESKTOP BACKGROUND, RESOLUTION AND COLORS, MOUSE AND KEYBOARD PREFERENCES AND OF COURSE BOINC AND LOAD IT ALL ONTO A FLASH AS A REMASTERED LIVE CD. THEN WHATEVER BOX YOU PLUG INTO, IT WILL LOOK AND FEEL JUST LIKE YOUR HOME BOX. THE MOST YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO ON A DIFFERENT BOX IS USE THE NETWORK "CONNECT" ICON TO GET ON LINE.

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Thanks Zappdog. Boinc is installed on the flash, but I didn't try it out on the other rigs. Will do so later & let you know it it got on.

Also, registered with your site. Popping over now for a gander :lol:

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Hi Zappdog. at the weekend, I tried installing Puppy on a hd on the workstation. Everything went ok but it still would not boot up. HD was set as boot in the bios & it's bugging me.

Brother called round on Sunday as my sister is worried (can't see why) & sent him round to check on me. Spoke to him about Puppy & he stated that he runs it. So as he will be picking me up on Saturday to go to London (more goodies - I'm seriously thinking of getting the Coolermaster R1000 case), he will check it out for me when we return.

I really hope that he can get it running :lol:

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Hey Zappdog, my apologies. I should check my e-mail more often. Thanks for the puppy manual. I think I found where I was going wrong & if I manage to get some spare time before I go to London at the weekend, I will re-install on backplane.

I have manual on desktop so will be able to switch across (KVM) if I experience any problems on the workstation.

I must admit, that is one dammed good manual 8)

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Hey Zappdog, she's up & running.

Did full installation on BP2 as per manual, but did not have to edit menu.lst as it was on the backplane with BP1/3 switched off. Rebooted & had a slight problem with the Linux Swap partition which paused the bootup for 60 seconds then it booted up into puppy.

To parody the Mr Kipling Ad "She runs exceedingly fast". However, after installing boinc & attaching to seti, it is only running 1 cpu. Checked prefs, everything normal. Have switched back to BP1 & will run out all wu's with NNT set then will reboot into puppy & finish the seti wu, then detach as it's not worth crunching with one core when I can use BP1 to crunch on all 4.

BP1/2/3 are 250gb drives. Partitioned BP2 to 512mb ext2, 8gb swap & the rest as ext3. For some reason it doesn't see the swap partition, but it still runs ok.

Will keep an eye on the puppy sites to see if/when a quad version becomes available.

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HEY SIRIUS B
CONGRATS ON GETTING IT RUNNING !! WELL IT WAS WORTH A TRY. AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TRYING.
LIKE YOU SAID, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE QUAD VERSION.
AS FOR THE SWAP SECTION, I DON'T HAVE ONE. IT RUNS FINE WITHOUT IT AND I'VE NEVER NEEDED IT.
I'M GOING TO CONTACT A FEW PUPPY DEVELOPERS AND SEE IF I CAN GET AN EXPECTED DATE.

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You're welcome. From what I've seen of Puppy so far, I'm thinking of killing my desktop's o/s & installing Puppy. Then kill the workstation's & run it as a normal desktop (only been using it as a test machine). Next trip to London will get the Coolermaster R1000 which has 7 5¼ bays as well as another backplane. This will give me a total of 25 HD's (15 Internal & 10 external) & will use it as a file server.

Personally finding Server 2008 difficult so it will be some time before I can get my public facing server up & running using this. However, going through my Linux Library, it may be easier & quicker to do it the Linux way - We'll see :!:

As you've already said, I like the way you can set up your own prefs & carry it with you.

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I CAN SEE THE PROBLEMS WHEN DEALING WITH WINDOWS SERVER. I HAVE A COPY OF
SERVER 2003 AND I HATED IT AS MUCH AS VISTA. I TRIED USING IT AS A DESKTOP BUT IT
WAS SO DUMB IT LASTED 2 DAYS. THERE WAS WAY TOO MUCH THAT DIDN'T WORK RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.
THIS WAS BEFORE I FOUND MY PUPPY SO ENDED BACK WITH XP.
AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD 2003 IS MUCH EASIER THAN 2008.
I KNOW THERE IS A NUMBER OF WEBSITES RUNNING PUPPY AS THE SERVER. PUPPYLINUX.CA FOR ONE.
IT MIGHT BE WORTH CHECKING INTO. ANY LINUX BREED WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER THAN WIN.

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That's what I can't understand. I've had no problems with 2003, she installed with no problems. Just needed to set up a/c's, permissions etc & she ran. I have 2008 running but can't see other rigs. Compared to 2003, it has too much to learn in my opinion!

Been playing around with Puppy. It really is fast.

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Hey Zappdog, I've run out the cache on the quad & now running Puppy to run out the seti wu.

What I find really cool is the screen. On windows I've had it at 1024x768 & the Puppy is the same. However, with Puppy, it shows more & pretty fast too :lol:

Can't wait for the quad version but it's a shame that this version can't run 4 cores :(

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OH OH !!!
I APOLOGIZE SIRIUS B.!! ITS STARTING TO SOUND LIKE SOMEONE GOT BIT BY THE PUPPY.
WINDOWS WILL NEVER FEEL THE SAME NOW LOL

(HA HA HA HA THE PUPPY PUSHER STRIKES AGAIN!)

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I SURE WISH I COULD CONVINCE MY BOSS TO LET ME USE PUPPY AT WORK. BUT OUR "I.T." GUY
DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING BUT WINDOWS. WELL I MAY HAVE FINALLY GOT HIS INTEREST WITH PUPPY.
ON FRIDAY MY BOX AT WORK LOST THE ADMIN SIGN IN. COULDN'T SIGN IN IN ANY WAY, SO BECAUSE I NEEDED SOME FILES ON THE WINDOWS HD, I BOOTED UP THE PUPPY AND HAD IT RUNNING WHEN HE SHOWED UP. WELL AFTER QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, I SENT HIM OFF WITH A PUPPY CD TO PLAY WITH.
I GET MY BOX BACK TODAY SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HE THINKS.
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To be perfectly honest, I haven't really liked Windows since Win95. I was quite happy running W3.11WFG for Microsoft programs & networking, but when finishing what I had to do, exited Windows, & instead of going to DOS, I had it setup to boot into Quikmenu - A lovely Dosshell which ran ALL my dos programs & games.

Since Windows became bloated, I've had nothing but problems to resolve like now - Boinc icon on the taskbar of my quad suddenly showed red & stated not connected to client. On opening the program, my project & task columns were empty. On popping over to the N/C board on seti, Mark came up with a solution as he has had similar problems. Ran chkdsk & it uncovered a lot of corrupt files, all boinc related & only recovered 2 orphaned files. Now the icon is missing & the program will not run. So it needs a reinstallation of boinc x64, but guess what? - the boinc server is down & as my quad is only used for crunching & testing, cannot understand how files were corrupted.

I'm just waiting for the WHS Powerpack which is coming out in beta next month & hopefully, I can backup ALL files on the server externally. Once done, will delete ALL MS programs off my net with the exception of Andrea's rig.

THEN, server=Linux, WS=Puppy & Desktop=Puppy. I'm fed up of being a permanent beta tester for MS :twisted:

There really is no point in rebooting quad to run puppy & crunch with only one core running, so will shut it down until boinc server is up.

I HONESTLY must admit that of all the Linux distros I've tried, Puppy is superb :lol:

One question, how do I get boinc to run with the icon on the taskbar? I did achieve this with Ubuntu 7.0.4 & Fedora 7, but I've forgotten how I did it.

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HEY SIRIUS B
I FINALLY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO THE ICON ON THE TASKBAR THING.
I JUST RUN BOINC AS A PROGRAM.
NOW FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU MEAN THE BOINC MANAGER OR TO MINIMIZE TO THE ICON.??
FOR THE ICON I AM NOT SURE WHAT FILE YOU USE FROM THE BIONC FOLDERS BUT IT WOULD LIKELY WORK GOING INTO
THE usr/bin FOLDER

THIS IS THE FILE FOR BLINKY IN usr/bin SO IT MIGHT NEED A SCRIPT OR THE ADDITION OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
#!/bin/sh
#launched in JWM taskbar
exec blinky $@

ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT BUT THAT MIGHT LEAD YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I'LL DO SOME FURTHER CHECKING AND SEE IF I CAN NARROW IT DOWN A BIT FURTHER

OH YA, IF ITS THE MANAGER YOU WANT CLICK ON run_client THEN run_manager

ALSO TRY A SEARCH IN THE PUPPY FORUM
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php

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Thanks Zappdog, will scout around.

What I meant was that when you close the boinc manager with the red X, it still runs with the icon on the taskbar.

I think I did something wrong with Puppy. I can open the boinc manager, but when I close it, it closes & stops running. Will have to search back through the forums to find the ansers to the questions I posed with Ubuntu & Fedora.

Very glad quad back up & running. This one was really weird. Could not see anything on quad to corrupt the boinc files as there is noting else on it besides the o's & av.

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YES THAT IS THE WAY IT WORKS ON MINE TOO.
I JUST RUN IT THE WAY IT IS SO I'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF HOW TO MAKE IT WORK THAT WAY.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME BUT IF YOU FIGURE IT OUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW.

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Hey Zappdog, you've been promoted. Hi BOSS 8)

As I've been really fed up with MS lately & your links to Puppy, I have seriously been considering switching to Linux. Until now, I have not come across any that I feel compfortable with.

UNTIL NOW. All thanks to Cafe Seti!!!!!!

Spotted thread entitled "OpenSolaris 2008.05, downloaded/burned iso & tried - good but no net access - Oh well. However, further down the thread, was a reference to Solaris 10.

Hit the Sun site, registered & downloaded Solaris 10. Burned iso & installed on backplane. MAGIC.

That is some excellent piece of software. Installed the complete package (entire core group + OEM). Everything worked, it even automatically detected Windows network & would not let me access until I provided User Name/Password. d/l'ed Boinc, set permissions & double clicked & it installed all files into it's own Boinc folder. However, when I click on run manager, nothing happens. I think this is the same way as Fedora 7 so will have to hunt down that info.

If I can crack this, I think MS will definitely be departing my Server & Workstation. I think I might leave Bill on the desktops until the Puppy can run quads.

Hurry up Puppy quaddies :cry:

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Solaris is Unix based like Mac OS X and BSD but it retains a lot of connections to Linux too, if I remember rightly it has KDE Desktop, another good operating system to try out is FreeBSD

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HEY SIRIUS B
FIRST OF ALL, SOLARIS 10 IS A GREAT O/S. A BIT TOO BLOATED FOR MY TASTES BUT IT IS COMPLETE AND WORKS QUITE WELL.
ITS FOOTPRINT IS BIGGER THAN MOST OF MY HD'S. FOR USE AS A SERVER, IT WILL DO IT BETTER THAN 2003 OR 2008.
I GOT INTERESTED IN PUPPY CAUSE OF THE IDEA THAT IT IS GOOD FOR REALLY OLD COMPS AND SMALL HD'S. IT REALLY DOES HAVE QUITE A FEW LIMITATIONS COMPARED TO A FULL BLOWN VERSION LIKE SOLARIS,.BUT IT DOES MOST OF WHAT I WANT LIKE INTERNET AND BOINC. I REALLY DON'T USE IT FOR MUCH ELSE. AND IT WAS ALSO THE FIRST LINUX DISTRO THAT WORKED RIGHT FOR ME.
FOR THE BOINC MANAGER TRY OPENING YOUR TERMINAL (COMMAND LINE PROMPT) AND TYPE IN run-manager. I'M NOT SURE WHAT BASH COMMAND SOLARIS USES BUT IN PUPPY ITS ./ WHICH IS THE "PREFIX" TO THE COMMAND LINE WHICH IS USED AT THE START OF ALL COMMAND LINES. WITH PUPPY I FOUND IT DID THE SAME TO ME ONCE BUT AFTER OPENING IT USING COMMAND LINE THE MANAGER ICON WORKED. IT MAY WORK FOR YOU. IF NOT THEN USE YOUR COMMAND LINE BUT WHEN YOU OPEN THE COMMAND LINE PROGRAM USE YOUR ARROW KEYS TO SCROLL THROUGH THE PAST COMMANDS. IT SAVES TYPING IT ALL OUT EVERY TIME.
HEY TIMMYGADGET, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. FREEBSD IS PRETTY GOOD AS WELL. I KNOW SOMEONE THAT RUNS IT AND LIKES IT.
I THINK MOST LINUX DISTROS ARE GOOD, JUST MADE FOR DIFFERENT USES, UNLIKE MS WHICH TRIES TO DO IT ALL AND NONE OF IT REAL GOOD.
A FAVORITE QUOTE " IF YOU EAT AND TALK AT THE SAME TIME, YOU WILL END UP DOING NEITHER VERY WELL." AUTHOR UNKNOWN.

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I have UBUNTU on my quad here and it woorks well. I'm not sure but I think they have a server version also.

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I have UBUNTU on my quad here and it woorks well. I'm not sure but I think they have a server version also.


They have Hardy Heron version 8 in Desktop and Server Editions

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I have UBUNTU on my quad here and it woorks well. I'm not sure but I think they have a server version also.


They have Hardy Heron version 8 in Desktop and Server Editions


One of the project uses it for there main server. It most work well. :)

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Thanks guys. I really like the look & feel of Solaris but if no joy, will try Hardy Heron for the server. I've used & crunched with Ubuntu 7.0.4 so no horrors there.

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